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rizzines wrote
I edited my comment to be less offensive to you. hopefully.
the idea that raddle is bad because of its 'lack of freedom of speech' is some reactionary bullshit you have been drinking, unfortunately.
not my idea.
'freedom of speech' is just code for 'suppressing the views of minorities' because language is oppressive and is used to maintain people's privilege. dont equate
please message me on Raddle or Matrix and tell me how that works.
cat wrote (edited )
your friend AuldLangCos seems like an okay person. but it seems you do not know what 'half truths and misinformation' there is and if their enforcement against facism and bigotry 'isn't going to be reasonable'. These are assumptions, not facts.
if you have any actual points against raddle other than that AuldLangCos had some vauge warnings against it because they have a certain perception of /r/anarchy mods, then please send them.
Unfortuantely, i havent saved anyone previously writing about why free speech is problematic, but i will try and explain it poorly.
some things you need to assume first, becuase i cannot explain them well ( i was going to link these to something but then i found someone on raddle explaining it)
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people learn how to act and interact as a result of their environment (this is called the socialisation process)
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people who have power try to reinforce their position and privilege in society (because the state, capitalism, and other hierarchical structures promote this behaviour)
the people with power benefit from isolating and casting off minorities as others. langauge created and perpetuated by people with power and can replicate such among others (you should investigate the use of slurs in society, especially ableist slurs which most people who speak english don't understand what they represent). by giving everyone the freedom of speech, you are allowing people who benefit from outcasting minorities to use words that are divisive and attack minorities and then create conversations that further isolate them. This is internalised by people (even the minorities), and the result is that these words are learnt within the socialisation process, continue to be used, and continue to attack the positions of minorities.
now read this! (some of the things won't make sense) but it is better than what i wrote
This is what the person who created postmill and is an admin of raddle has said about free speech: 'Our belief is that freedom from harm trumps freedom of speech. Contrary to what some people believe, Raddle isn't exclusively a site for anarchists, although they are the largest demographic. Socialists of all stripes, social democrats, liberals, conservatives and anyone else who wants to partake in a community where bigotry isn't tolerated in the name of "free speech" is welcome to join. The one condition is that bigotry stays out of the picture.'
sorry for this broken answer, i need to do work now. also note that the reason why no one answered you call to move to raddle from reddit is because people are volentarily ignorant of the issues of reddit because it works for them. thats why /r/anarchism has 800000 subs and /f/anarchism has 800. people dont want to change.
rizzines wrote
if you have any actual points against raddle other than AuldLangCos send some vauge warnings against it because they have a certain perception of /r/anarchy mods, then please send them.
Nah I still Raddle. I'm just saying, this forum is better for non-political stuff.
cat wrote
people dont know about raddle like they know about voat (just because your other friend on reddit does doesnt other people do). the facists who went voat had power within reddit, and this was excersised when they tried to 'shut down reddit', and garnered the attention of the people on reddit at the time. raddle and postmill with it was created in reaction to the banning of /r/leftwithasharpedge, whereby the needs of anarchists was not paid attention to by the reddit hivemind.
the idea that raddle is bad because of its 'lack of freedom of speech' is some reactionary bullshit you have been drinking, unfortunately. 'freedom of speech' is just code for 'suppressing the views of minorities' because language is oppressive and is used to maintain people's privilege. dont equate 'radical leftism' with the debased beliefs of others please.
but you should do what you want, jstpst.net is a nice place, but if raddle is a problem for you for your artificial and arbitrary reasons, then you will be spooked to know that jstpst runs on the same open source, privacy centered and unbloated code.
have a good day :)