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devtesla wrote

Because we don't really advertise this place lol, we just got started up.

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rizzines wrote

Oh, how long ago?

Also, where's the big list of Postmill communities?

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devtesla wrote

We've been around for like two months or so. And I don't know of any list of Postmill communities.

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hollyhoppet admin wrote

voat makes a lot of noise because they're... god they're what they are i spent like a minute trying to think up a way to summarize why they're terrible and did not succeed

i didn't know other people knew about raddle aside from like radical leftists who somehow stumble upon it

uh we don't really make nay noise at all we just want to hang out and post but still ban the bad people lol

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rizzines wrote

My biggest problem with voat is racism ._.

So, where's our IRC channel?

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hollyhoppet wrote

If you know your way around irc, it's on synirc, #just_post

If you don't you may want to wait till devtesla writes that tutorial post. I'm a bit short on spoons for an IRC tutorial atm.

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rizzines wrote

I know IRC! Maybe I can write a tutorial? But, it differs a bit depending on which IRC client you use.

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rizzines wrote (edited )

People know about Raddle. I invited /r/cataclysmdda over to /f/cataclysmdda on Raddle, and the silence was deafening, until somebody told me Raddle wasn't a suitable substitution to Reddit because of lack of freedom of speech they didn't trust the admins, and claimed there was half truths and misinformation in the "What's wrong with Reddit" part of the wiki. (huh, I would've expected the communism part to be more shocking to others ._.)

Let's see what happens when I invite them to /f/cataclysmdda on Just_Post when I can create forums tomorrow.

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cat wrote

people dont know about raddle like they know about voat (just because your other friend on reddit does doesnt other people do). the facists who went voat had power within reddit, and this was excersised when they tried to 'shut down reddit', and garnered the attention of the people on reddit at the time. raddle and postmill with it was created in reaction to the banning of /r/leftwithasharpedge, whereby the needs of anarchists was not paid attention to by the reddit hivemind.

the idea that raddle is bad because of its 'lack of freedom of speech' is some reactionary bullshit you have been drinking, unfortunately. 'freedom of speech' is just code for 'suppressing the views of minorities' because language is oppressive and is used to maintain people's privilege. dont equate 'radical leftism' with the debased beliefs of others please.

but you should do what you want, jstpst.net is a nice place, but if raddle is a problem for you for your artificial and arbitrary reasons, then you will be spooked to know that jstpst runs on the same open source, privacy centered and unbloated code.

have a good day :)

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rizzines wrote

I edited my comment to be less offensive to you. hopefully.

the idea that raddle is bad because of its 'lack of freedom of speech' is some reactionary bullshit you have been drinking, unfortunately.

not my idea.

'freedom of speech' is just code for 'suppressing the views of minorities' because language is oppressive and is used to maintain people's privilege. dont equate

please message me on Raddle or Matrix and tell me how that works.

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cat wrote (edited )

your friend AuldLangCos seems like an okay person. but it seems you do not know what 'half truths and misinformation' there is and if their enforcement against facism and bigotry 'isn't going to be reasonable'. These are assumptions, not facts.

if you have any actual points against raddle other than that AuldLangCos had some vauge warnings against it because they have a certain perception of /r/anarchy mods, then please send them.

Unfortuantely, i havent saved anyone previously writing about why free speech is problematic, but i will try and explain it poorly.

some things you need to assume first, becuase i cannot explain them well ( i was going to link these to something but then i found someone on raddle explaining it)

  1. people learn how to act and interact as a result of their environment (this is called the socialisation process)

  2. people who have power try to reinforce their position and privilege in society (because the state, capitalism, and other hierarchical structures promote this behaviour)

the people with power benefit from isolating and casting off minorities as others. langauge created and perpetuated by people with power and can replicate such among others (you should investigate the use of slurs in society, especially ableist slurs which most people who speak english don't understand what they represent). by giving everyone the freedom of speech, you are allowing people who benefit from outcasting minorities to use words that are divisive and attack minorities and then create conversations that further isolate them. This is internalised by people (even the minorities), and the result is that these words are learnt within the socialisation process, continue to be used, and continue to attack the positions of minorities.

now read this! (some of the things won't make sense) but it is better than what i wrote

This is what the person who created postmill and is an admin of raddle has said about free speech: 'Our belief is that freedom from harm trumps freedom of speech. Contrary to what some people believe, Raddle isn't exclusively a site for anarchists, although they are the largest demographic. Socialists of all stripes, social democrats, liberals, conservatives and anyone else who wants to partake in a community where bigotry isn't tolerated in the name of "free speech" is welcome to join. The one condition is that bigotry stays out of the picture.'

sorry for this broken answer, i need to do work now. also note that the reason why no one answered you call to move to raddle from reddit is because people are volentarily ignorant of the issues of reddit because it works for them. thats why /r/anarchism has 800000 subs and /f/anarchism has 800. people dont want to change.

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rizzines wrote

if you have any actual points against raddle other than AuldLangCos send some vauge warnings against it because they have a certain perception of /r/anarchy mods, then please send them.

Nah I still Raddle. I'm just saying, this forum is better for non-political stuff.

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RoundSparrow wrote (edited )

Postmill shows that for $25/year hosting cost anyone willing to ask 10 hours of questions on a forum can be the admin/owner of a forum similar to Reddit with a few thousand active users.

This was always true, even if a little higher costs for the reddit open source software overhead (higher RAM), before they closed it.

What makes reddit popular is the brand, the big name, and your question about "Why do people think Raddle and Voat are the only alternatives to Reddit?" - how active is Voat really? You think even 5% of Reddit readers know about Voat? Which less than 1% know of Raddle?

Reddit voting patterns is almost all about popularity. People can't wait to get their upvotes and make the front page of their topic. Dominating over others in conversation and votes is a big big behavior pattern when there are millions and millions of users reading your 20 words. It matters very little how honest, truthful, and sincere you are - as bots can even repost reddit topics with previous comments and get the upvotes. It's all about the size the crowd, style, timing, and that chance to catch the hot MEME social wave while the camera is rolling.

Well, perhaps, feel the new wave of change: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojf18wT_Xtk

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hollyhoppet wrote

Reddit voting patterns is almost all about popularity. People can't wait to get their upvotes and make the front page of their topic.

Literally the only thing i upvote on this site are any posts my gf makes lol

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RoundSparrow wrote

It takes a lot to recognize how easy it is to operate and host a text-based forum, and perhaps it's best to spread them around the area.

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hollyhoppet wrote

Sorry, I don't quite understand how this relates to my comment. Sometimes I have trouble making conversational connections because I miss implied context that might be clear to others.

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noordinaryspider wrote

I greatly prefer text based forums and am very happy to have found this place. I was invited by another member. I am also on Raddle for political stuff, so I don't need as much of it here unless it is a different perspective or something that I hadn't thought about.

I hope it's okay that I shared the link and invited someone who is being abused on Twitter.